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		<title>By: Gale</title>
		<link>http://tendollarthoughts.com/2012/07/26/an-especially-tricky-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-49311</link>
		<dc:creator>Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather - More than a month later and I&#039;m finally responding to your comment.  My apologies.  You posted it right as I went on blogging vacation, which was then shortly followed by actual vacation, and I sort of lost track of things.  Again, I&#039;m sorry.  It was a brave and thoughtful comment and certainly deserving of a more prompt response.  

As for your drunk driving analogy, I&#039;m not sure it holds up.  The purpose of guns (handguns in particular) is to kill people.  The purpose of alcohol is not to kill people.  Neither is that the purpose of cars.  But an unfortunate side effect is that drunk driving happens.  People also drown in swimming pools and overdose on pain killers and meet myriad other tragic ends.  The difference with guns is why they exist.  They exist to kill.  Perhaps you are right that these sorts of people could build a bomb out of household chemicals.  But the amount of chemistry and planning involved likely significantly reduces the number people willing to go to that sort of trouble.  Crimes of impulse and passion are not carried out by bomb.  

I&#039;m sorry that your hobby - something you value and enjoy and which hold particular sentimental value to you based on the relationships that are tied to it - is, as you say, being given a bad name by horrible, irresponsible people.  Nevertheless, I hold my position.  It is your hobby, not your life.  I still believe that anyone&#039;s life is more important than anyone&#039;s hobby.

Thanks again for your comment, and for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather &#8211; More than a month later and I&#8217;m finally responding to your comment.  My apologies.  You posted it right as I went on blogging vacation, which was then shortly followed by actual vacation, and I sort of lost track of things.  Again, I&#8217;m sorry.  It was a brave and thoughtful comment and certainly deserving of a more prompt response.  </p>
<p>As for your drunk driving analogy, I&#8217;m not sure it holds up.  The purpose of guns (handguns in particular) is to kill people.  The purpose of alcohol is not to kill people.  Neither is that the purpose of cars.  But an unfortunate side effect is that drunk driving happens.  People also drown in swimming pools and overdose on pain killers and meet myriad other tragic ends.  The difference with guns is why they exist.  They exist to kill.  Perhaps you are right that these sorts of people could build a bomb out of household chemicals.  But the amount of chemistry and planning involved likely significantly reduces the number people willing to go to that sort of trouble.  Crimes of impulse and passion are not carried out by bomb.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that your hobby &#8211; something you value and enjoy and which hold particular sentimental value to you based on the relationships that are tied to it &#8211; is, as you say, being given a bad name by horrible, irresponsible people.  Nevertheless, I hold my position.  It is your hobby, not your life.  I still believe that anyone&#8217;s life is more important than anyone&#8217;s hobby.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your comment, and for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://tendollarthoughts.com/2012/07/26/an-especially-tricky-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-48061</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post.  I have been reading your blog for awhile and I admire your diverse topics and attention to details.  I like how you do your research and aren&#039;t afraid to say what is on your mind :)  That said, I tend to disagree with many of your thoughts on gun control. 

You state, &quot;But I also think that it’s unfair for movie-goers, school children, and college students to risk death just because some people believe that their right to guns trumps other people’s right to life. No person’s hobby is more important than another person’s life.&quot;-This same thing could be said for victims of drunk driving accidents.  Should we ban alcohol in the United States just because some people get hurt and killed?  Because a few people in this country are severely inappropriate with guns, no one should be allowed to have them?  This world is a painful and unsafe place.  You take away the guns and don&#039;t you think the kind of people who shoot up movie theaters and college campuses are just as likely to choose a different weapon, perhaps building a bomb out of whatever we keep under our kitchen sinks?

I agree when you say that we need to figure out the motive behind these tragedies.  We need to prevent them in the future, because you are right movie goes, school children, and college students shouldn&#039;t have to fear for their lives.  It infuriates me when something like this happens, it gives guns a bad name.  I have shooting for quite some time now and it is not an easy world for a casual gun owner to live.  I shoot clay targets for fun with my shotgun and yet because I live in the state of Illinois, I have to have special identification to purchase ammunition.  I keep my gun religiously locked in a safe because if someone were to steal my gun and harm someone else with it, I would be held responsible.  My dad taught me how to shoot, without it, I don&#039;t know if our relationship would be as strong as it is today.  My husband and I met on our college trap and skeet team.  

Yes, it is a gross oversimplification, but without a person behind it to pull the trigger, a gun is just a cold hunk of metal.  Anything can become a weapon if people are determined enough.

Whew, your longest post and certainly my longest comment:)  Thanks for posting something real to chew on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post.  I have been reading your blog for awhile and I admire your diverse topics and attention to details.  I like how you do your research and aren&#8217;t afraid to say what is on your mind <img src='http://tendollarthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   That said, I tend to disagree with many of your thoughts on gun control. </p>
<p>You state, &#8220;But I also think that it’s unfair for movie-goers, school children, and college students to risk death just because some people believe that their right to guns trumps other people’s right to life. No person’s hobby is more important than another person’s life.&#8221;-This same thing could be said for victims of drunk driving accidents.  Should we ban alcohol in the United States just because some people get hurt and killed?  Because a few people in this country are severely inappropriate with guns, no one should be allowed to have them?  This world is a painful and unsafe place.  You take away the guns and don&#8217;t you think the kind of people who shoot up movie theaters and college campuses are just as likely to choose a different weapon, perhaps building a bomb out of whatever we keep under our kitchen sinks?</p>
<p>I agree when you say that we need to figure out the motive behind these tragedies.  We need to prevent them in the future, because you are right movie goes, school children, and college students shouldn&#8217;t have to fear for their lives.  It infuriates me when something like this happens, it gives guns a bad name.  I have shooting for quite some time now and it is not an easy world for a casual gun owner to live.  I shoot clay targets for fun with my shotgun and yet because I live in the state of Illinois, I have to have special identification to purchase ammunition.  I keep my gun religiously locked in a safe because if someone were to steal my gun and harm someone else with it, I would be held responsible.  My dad taught me how to shoot, without it, I don&#8217;t know if our relationship would be as strong as it is today.  My husband and I met on our college trap and skeet team.  </p>
<p>Yes, it is a gross oversimplification, but without a person behind it to pull the trigger, a gun is just a cold hunk of metal.  Anything can become a weapon if people are determined enough.</p>
<p>Whew, your longest post and certainly my longest comment:)  Thanks for posting something real to chew on.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really great post.  Because of where my interestes lie, I&#039;ve largely been reading news stories from the entertainment industry that analyze the shooting and how it&#039;s related to entertainment. So I appreciate this summary of several of the issues at play with gun control.  Living in Oregon, the politicized nature of this argument is abundantly clear.  There are uber liberal VERY anti-gun folks, and uber conservative VERY pro-gun folks when you leave the I-5 corrider.  I&#039;ve never gotten that involved in the debate because I&#039;ve always just figured &quot;Well, I don&#039;t hunt, so I&#039;ll never own a gun.  End of story.&quot;  But now that I have a child, and having been someone who&#039;s attended a midnight movie premiere (granted, it was Harry Potter, but whatever), I&#039;m feeling way more disturbed these days.  when someone comes up with a solution that allows sportsman to keep their guns to kill deer, but prohibits the kind of killing that happened in Aurora, i&#039;m all ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great post.  Because of where my interestes lie, I&#8217;ve largely been reading news stories from the entertainment industry that analyze the shooting and how it&#8217;s related to entertainment. So I appreciate this summary of several of the issues at play with gun control.  Living in Oregon, the politicized nature of this argument is abundantly clear.  There are uber liberal VERY anti-gun folks, and uber conservative VERY pro-gun folks when you leave the I-5 corrider.  I&#8217;ve never gotten that involved in the debate because I&#8217;ve always just figured &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t hunt, so I&#8217;ll never own a gun.  End of story.&#8221;  But now that I have a child, and having been someone who&#8217;s attended a midnight movie premiere (granted, it was Harry Potter, but whatever), I&#8217;m feeling way more disturbed these days.  when someone comes up with a solution that allows sportsman to keep their guns to kill deer, but prohibits the kind of killing that happened in Aurora, i&#8217;m all ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Gale</title>
		<link>http://tendollarthoughts.com/2012/07/26/an-especially-tricky-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-47810</link>
		<dc:creator>Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - Thanks for your comment.  You&#039;re right, this issue is too important to let political ideologies get in the way of solving it.  However, I don&#039;t see the air being cleared in that regard any time soon.  Also, I take it as a huge compliment that you think I&#039;m gutsy.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; Thanks for your comment.  You&#8217;re right, this issue is too important to let political ideologies get in the way of solving it.  However, I don&#8217;t see the air being cleared in that regard any time soon.  Also, I take it as a huge compliment that you think I&#8217;m gutsy.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://tendollarthoughts.com/2012/07/26/an-especially-tricky-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-47805</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gale - I&#039;m on your side with this one -- at least as far as automatic weapons are concerned.  As you know, we have a rifle for coyotes and a shotgun for copperhead snakes, but other than that I have no need for a gun.  And, no civilian has a need for any weapon that can function essentially like a machine gun.

To me, the entire NRA lobby is a bit scary, and yes you&#039;re probably right, getting any meaningful reform is not likely in the cards.  But, as with many issues, this one gets politicized to such a degree that right and wrong are less the issue than who says what.  It becomes a Republican vs. Democrat and conservative vs. liberal argument.  Crime is bad.  Shooting people on the streets is bad.  And finding the solution, regardless of which party gets the credit, is not the issue.  It is a problem that supersedes the political overtones.

Thanks for your gutsy and thought provoking comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gale &#8211; I&#8217;m on your side with this one &#8212; at least as far as automatic weapons are concerned.  As you know, we have a rifle for coyotes and a shotgun for copperhead snakes, but other than that I have no need for a gun.  And, no civilian has a need for any weapon that can function essentially like a machine gun.</p>
<p>To me, the entire NRA lobby is a bit scary, and yes you&#8217;re probably right, getting any meaningful reform is not likely in the cards.  But, as with many issues, this one gets politicized to such a degree that right and wrong are less the issue than who says what.  It becomes a Republican vs. Democrat and conservative vs. liberal argument.  Crime is bad.  Shooting people on the streets is bad.  And finding the solution, regardless of which party gets the credit, is not the issue.  It is a problem that supersedes the political overtones.</p>
<p>Thanks for your gutsy and thought provoking comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I don&#039;t believe the Daily Show adds much to the world, but I do believe that there should be no more discussion about hand guns and assault rifles.  They should be banned.  Thanks for a very thoughtful post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I don&#8217;t believe the Daily Show adds much to the world, but I do believe that there should be no more discussion about hand guns and assault rifles.  They should be banned.  Thanks for a very thoughtful post.</p>
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		<title>By: Gale</title>
		<link>http://tendollarthoughts.com/2012/07/26/an-especially-tricky-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-47773</link>
		<dc:creator>Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan - Thanks for this lovely comment.  I remember well the Jon Stewart interview that finally felled &lt;em&gt;Crossfire &lt;/em&gt;and Tucker Carlson.  (I think it will be interesting 20 or 30 years from now to see what general consensus emerges about the effect that Stewart had on moden journalism.)  Profitability is what drives most of today&#039;s news industry, which means that we all have to be particularly vigilant about seeing through the propaganda and posturing.  Sometimes it&#039;s quite difficult to find the objective truth amidst all the political grandstanding.  In the meantime I will continue to do my best to sort through my beliefs in this space, and to do so in a way that isn&#039;t so alienating.  Thanks again for your compliments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan &#8211; Thanks for this lovely comment.  I remember well the Jon Stewart interview that finally felled <em>Crossfire </em>and Tucker Carlson.  (I think it will be interesting 20 or 30 years from now to see what general consensus emerges about the effect that Stewart had on moden journalism.)  Profitability is what drives most of today&#8217;s news industry, which means that we all have to be particularly vigilant about seeing through the propaganda and posturing.  Sometimes it&#8217;s quite difficult to find the objective truth amidst all the political grandstanding.  In the meantime I will continue to do my best to sort through my beliefs in this space, and to do so in a way that isn&#8217;t so alienating.  Thanks again for your compliments.</p>
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		<title>By: Gale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelby - Thanks for commenting.  In my perfect world even handguns and shotguns would be banned, but I don&#039;t want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  Unfortunately the bar is set pretty low in my mind right now, as I think just about anything would be better than what we have.  Unfortunately, I think the gun lobby is too big and powerful for much to change.  I really hope I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby &#8211; Thanks for commenting.  In my perfect world even handguns and shotguns would be banned, but I don&#8217;t want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  Unfortunately the bar is set pretty low in my mind right now, as I think just about anything would be better than what we have.  Unfortunately, I think the gun lobby is too big and powerful for much to change.  I really hope I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Ebright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Ebright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, Gale, I think this post was worth more than $10.  I look forward to your conversation in paragraph two.
I often refer to your peers as the &quot;Cross Fire Generation&quot;.  While you may not remember the original show from the late 70&#039;s and early 80&#039;s, it morphed from civilized debate into shouting heads, finally lambasted and disgraced during an appearance from Jon Stewart that became one of the all-time most viewed Youtube clips in 2005.
Civil debate and news delivery has largely been replaced by shouting heads and editorial commentary by news-anchors, or, even worse, entertainment fluff parading as important information.
That dumbing-down has made its way into social media as re-posting of bumper-stickers has replaced civil conversation and writing, like your effort here.
Thank you for your thoughtful and elegant expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, Gale, I think this post was worth more than $10.  I look forward to your conversation in paragraph two.<br />
I often refer to your peers as the &#8220;Cross Fire Generation&#8221;.  While you may not remember the original show from the late 70&#8242;s and early 80&#8242;s, it morphed from civilized debate into shouting heads, finally lambasted and disgraced during an appearance from Jon Stewart that became one of the all-time most viewed Youtube clips in 2005.<br />
Civil debate and news delivery has largely been replaced by shouting heads and editorial commentary by news-anchors, or, even worse, entertainment fluff parading as important information.<br />
That dumbing-down has made its way into social media as re-posting of bumper-stickers has replaced civil conversation and writing, like your effort here.<br />
Thank you for your thoughtful and elegant expression.</p>
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		<title>By: shelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gale - I completely agree with you. What is missing from the gun control debate is the acknowledgement that not all guns are created equal.  Similar to you, I often say that &quot;no one needs an assault weapon to take down a deer.&quot; As well, we have laws in place to limit harm to others. For example, we limit how fast people can drive to ensure the public&#039;s safety.  Yet, it&#039;s somehow not okay to limit the types of guns available...how does this make sense? 

I believe that guns can and should be regulated. Certain types of guns, magazine clips and even bullets should be certainly banned. And, I&#039;m open to a national tracking database to flag those people, like Holms, who might be buying too much too fast. (This last one does make me nervous -- I don&#039;t completely trust our government and certainly not all local police departments....perhaps we need some HIPPA-like privacy guards in place so only those buying too much are personally identified). I hope those smarter than me about the specifics can somehow unite to form - outside of the NRA - a balanced and (dare I say) mainstream view of the issues.

Lastly, I&#039;m alarmed that support for gun control is waning.  How can we not care enough about the lives of ourselves and others to engage in this important debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gale &#8211; I completely agree with you. What is missing from the gun control debate is the acknowledgement that not all guns are created equal.  Similar to you, I often say that &#8220;no one needs an assault weapon to take down a deer.&#8221; As well, we have laws in place to limit harm to others. For example, we limit how fast people can drive to ensure the public&#8217;s safety.  Yet, it&#8217;s somehow not okay to limit the types of guns available&#8230;how does this make sense? </p>
<p>I believe that guns can and should be regulated. Certain types of guns, magazine clips and even bullets should be certainly banned. And, I&#8217;m open to a national tracking database to flag those people, like Holms, who might be buying too much too fast. (This last one does make me nervous &#8212; I don&#8217;t completely trust our government and certainly not all local police departments&#8230;.perhaps we need some HIPPA-like privacy guards in place so only those buying too much are personally identified). I hope those smarter than me about the specifics can somehow unite to form &#8211; outside of the NRA &#8211; a balanced and (dare I say) mainstream view of the issues.</p>
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;m alarmed that support for gun control is waning.  How can we not care enough about the lives of ourselves and others to engage in this important debate?</p>
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